2020-05-19 10:57:54 (GMT)
Last time, Pascal wanted to join but missed the link because it was only posted on Zulip and he wasn't aware of our thread "date: paper" naming scheme.
The link is anyway created last minute so I don't think it makes sense to post it anywhere but on Zulip, but at least the time and paper could be broadcasted in advance. Would the Matryoshka mailing list be an appropriate additional means of diffusion of the time and selected paper of the bookclub?
Of course this goes against the first rule of the bookclub. ;)
2020-05-19 11:1:49 (GMT)
You can't fight the last war. ;) I'd continue like we do today. If somebody really wants to join, they would post on sneeuwbal or somewhere and one of the ten of us would have picked it up. Pascal didn't even try that...
2020-05-19 11:4:18 (GMT)
Well... He did send me an email, and my answer probably wasn't clear enough, I think.
2020-05-19 11:8:57 (GMT)
An email to matryoshka would solve nothing. Lots of spam, and most people collect mailing list emails so that they look at them say once a week, so they wouldn't notice, nor expect it there. Plus, sneeuwbal != matryoshka (neither superset nor subset). I stick to my claim that Pascal didn't try hard enough.
2020-05-19 11:9:29 (GMT)
He probably had other things, e.g. an SMT submission, to work on, and wasn't too unhappy about having a bit more time to do that.
2020-05-19 12:5:30 (GMT)
This is not only about Pascal's anecdote, but about whether Zulip is fine as the only means of communication for the bookclub.
I agree that sneeuwbal is not matryoshka, so let's forget about spamming its mailing list with bookclub announcements. But nothing prevents us from creating another mailing list just for the bookclub, or a webpage, although this would require additional bookkeeping. What I would like to know is whether Pascal's was a single event or if anyone here heard of similar cases, to have an idea of whether it would be worth considering an extra information channel or not. My assumption is that it is not worth it, but let's see.
2020-05-19 12:10:4 (GMT)
Of course, asking this on Zulip is a bit paradoxal. ^^
2020-05-19 12:24:17 (GMT)
Hi,
I am OK with having missed it. But I definitely do not like zulip. At all. I resisted IRC in my young days, because email was bad enough. I am quite afraid this zulip thing will become a standard way of communicating.
Now I know I should look for the time and date in the subject of the thread, and I should not expect the sharing platform to be announced 24 hours before the meeting with a reminder of the exact time ;-) .
2020-05-19 12:24:46 (GMT)
At Trolltech, we had a very simple guideline concerning feature requests: Wait until 3 people asked for the same thing.
2020-05-19 12:27:2 (GMT)
Hi @Pascal Fontaine, nice to see you!
You're lucky this is zulip and not slack or discord (which are both a lot more popular). On either of these you wouldn't be able to find a thread with a clear title if you didn't follow it live. Zulip is more like a mailing list :slight_smile:
2020-05-19 13:0:57 (GMT)
And if you prefer using an email client to the web, it's possible to configure Zulip to receive all sorts of notifications per email (or mobile or beeping or whatever alert you like).
2020-05-27 19:52:53 (GMT)
I have been quite unhappy with the email notifications to the point I disabled them. The email header only contains the topic and the content repeats the last few messages such that Thunderbird / Mobile popups only show lines I have read and I need to scroll down for reading one more line. TeX renders double in Thunderbird too.